Club Med and the Lessons of History (or, What am I talking, Greek?)
GREEK CRISIS: A serious debt crisis in Greece has rattled global financial markets and raised worries about whether other countries will be able to repay their debts.
LEHMAN REPLAY: Economists are worried that the Greek crisis, if not contained, could turn into a repeat of the cascading financial panic that occurred in the fall of 2008 after Lehman Brothers collapsed.
DEBT RESCUE: European countries and the International Monetary Fund are racing to assemble a package of loans for Greece that will be sufficient to convince markets that the country will not default on its debt obligations.
Concerns have already surfaced in Congress that the broad demands of the sovereign debt crisis will quickly exhaust the I.M.F.’s reserves and leave the United States, the fund’s largest shareholder, with the bill.
Professor Nouriel Roubini, the New York-based academic who was one of the few to anticipate the scale of the US financial crisis, told a panel in California that the buildup of debt is likely to lead to countries defaulting or resorting to inflation to ease the burden on their populations.
“While today markets are worried about Greece, Greece is just the tip of the iceberg,” he said., “ The thing I worry about is the buildup of sovereign debt.”
The whole idea that the financial crisis was over is being called into doubt. History shows us that the Great Depression bottom was the sovereign debt default phase. And the EU's erratic responses (hesitancy followed by “lip service” rather than decisive responses) is going to prove even more detrimental as this "Club Med" crisis grinds on.
The Great Depression was composed of two separate panics. In 1930 people thought they'd seen the worst of things.
But the economic conditions created by the first panic were already eating away at the foundations of financial institutions and governments. This is one of the reasons that we had a second banking crisis, which pushed America to the real bottom of the Great Depression, and brought FDR to power.
The euro is in crisis, and already-weak European banks appear to be massively exposed to Greece's huge debt load. They're even more exposed to the debt of the other Eurozone countries – Spain, Portugal et. al., which is far too large for it all to be bailed out. The size of the rescue package that Greece needs is already going to take a substantial chunk of the IMF's war chest. And the IMF is, basically, the United States.
It's not clear that Greece has the political will for the austerity measures it's going to have to make even if its debt yields come back down--and the higher they stay, the smaller the chance. This is the calculation its creditors are making, which is why yields are now in the 20% range. And, perversely, this makes it more likely that creditors are going to lose their money.
A friend of mine from California, who is a successful investment manager and a multi-year disciple of Warren Buffet, thinks the entire idea of the Euro is idiotic: a fiat currency held by all members of the club.
Robert says, “In the “old days”, Greece could simply have devalued the drachma. Now, of course, they can’t devalue and so the reality of a “social democracy” such as the European Union is now exposed. In fact, what you have is an entire European Union that has borrowed from the future.”
The demographics are such that the concept of “ Europe ” per se is completely moribund. There is no future for Europe under the present circumstances.
Just as Greece is unwilling to undertake “austerity measures” ( i.e., stop borrowing and living on credit) the culture of Europe (which includes Great Britain but excludes Russia) is unwilling to do what is necessary; which is:
1.Unplug the Euro and return to sovereign currencies.
2.Stop all forms of deficit spending (as in “do not spend more than you take in”)
3.Start procreating so that the population replacement ratio is reached (which may be impossible, as well as too late).
Robert continues, “Thus, the IMF (read, “USA” ) will ultimately bail out Greece since the Germans see the obvious injustice of raising taxes in Germany to pay for the profligate Greeks. In the USA, we are too stupid to see this, so Obama and Company ( the Idiot Geithner, The Fool Summers, etc) will, for political reasons, continue to raise taxes until all of the expendable income of the upper 5% is attached to support causes like the IMF (internationally) and Big Government (Unions, healthcare, etc) domestically.'”
The same morbidity applies to us except that, for the moment we are still standing (albeit not very tall).
You know what? I think my friend is right. We’ve got a very big problem on our hands, and we are indeed headed for a real double-dip recession. We’ve built a global house of cards. If that house comes down, it’s going to be very painful for a long, long time. How about it, Keynesians? Don’t tell me you plan to print even more money to solve the world’s economic problems, because IT DOESN’T WORK.
I'm afraid my German government isn't strong enough to resist the pressure form the other European countries. And we as German will pay the debt with our debt which will lead to even more tax increase here in Germany. BTW, we debate here while at the same time Greek teachers violently demonstrate against the needed cuts in Athen. BTW, did you know that the _average_ retirement age in Greece is at the age of 53 years. And Greek civil servants are allowed to retire at the age of 50. Plus they get about 90 - 95% of their _last_ income as pension.
ReplyDeleteI agree that the EURO € is a bad idea. The Greeks and the other candidates should be excluded from the EURO Zone and return to their sovereign currencies.
But at the end we'll pay for the profligate lifestyle of the Greek while our badly equipped soldiers are dying in Afghanistan. Sick!
Let's have a look at this "profligate lifestyle of the Greek":
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* Working hours: 50-60 per week (on a 5-day workweek), frequently more.
* Gasoline price at the pump this morning: 1.4-1.6 Euro/lt.
* Average retirement age: 61-63 and going up.
The average Greek citizen is not the carefree Zorba you probably have in mind. At the best of times (circa mid-90s - mid-00s) he merely didn't have to struggle to make ends meet. Now he does, and he very much worries how he's going to raise his family/children
tomorrow and in the long run.
Has there been ridiculous spending in the government & civil sector? Of course. Does the Greek citizen share the blame for voting the successive political leaderships that have brought the country to the brink of bankruptcy? Yes, he does. But this does not make him responsible for the financial crisis anymore than the average American (or German) citizen is directly responsible for the Iraq & Afghanistan mess.
And "profligate"? Please.
@Dimitris,
ReplyDeleteWhen we refer to the "profligate Greeks", we are talking about the government, not individual hard-working citizens, who have little power to control their country's economic destiny.
The debt crisis is the result of the moneyed classes demanding greater and greater return on their investments, and hiring money managers who will ship their money around to the highest bidder. Let's return to the 1950's when top income tax rates were 92% and banks actually aggregated small depositer's money in order to invest in ventures that would turn an eventual profit.
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